when i paid for a back country camp site i hadnt realised id just be parked at a trail head with zero privacy.
i had to wait for three day hikers to move their cars so i could even get in my spot as they had ignored the camp signs completely...
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dont bother unless you're really really really desperate. loy butte was a good area til they closed all the ites 4 weeks ago. Sedona really hates rvs and campers. literally nowhere to go now jf you have anything bigger than a sprinter. but...
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